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  • Profile photo of Anonymous UserAnonymous User
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    #25669

    please go to naabt.org for a wonderful forum of users of this drug. Any kind of study would not be complete without this information.

  • Profile photo of Anonymous UserAnonymous User
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    #25668

    I am a suboxone user and I do not get high from this drug. My doctor has me on them and it was a miracle drug for me. It saved my life. I do have on going issues with pain and I do not want to go back to taking pain meds. My doctor told me he can give me these for pain, as they do act as a pain med. I can take them with an onset of my arthritis, or fibromyalgia or just the pains I get in my knees and hips and I am not fully out of pain but it an help with some advil. Is this okay to do? Can someone take suboxone as an on going med for pain as you would taking narcotics? I do not want to do something that is going to just put me back where I came from, an addiction. But, I do not get high. I do not take more than I’m suppose to, I put them under my tounge like i”m supposed to. I do not run out like I use to my pain meds. I think this drug is a life saver, but was wondering if a doc can keep you on this for pain?

    • Profile photo of Anonymous UserAnonymous User
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      #25659

      you are so right . this drug works and work well. just take what your prescribed and it will lead you back to a life before heroin and oxy.dont shoot it cause it will throw your ass back into withdrawal its a fucking god/send compared to methadone. best move i made so far. love my life again. gutterboy,

    • Profile photo of Anonymous UserAnonymous User
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      #25646

      Hi,
      I was reading your post and i am glad you found suboxone because you say it saved your life, which it undoubtably did for me. The medical community says and even promotes that you can use it long term, but PLEASE understand and weigh the risk/reward. I dont know how much you are taking per day, and how long you have been taking it or plan on taking it, but if you are on anyhting over 4mg’s for more than a few months, it is VERY hard to get off. When used correctly, to detox people off opiates, and tapered withing 45-60 days, it is a miracle drug. Many people are prescriped much higher doses and kept on it for a long time which is not a good idea. If you used it to get off opiates, you were detoxed from them withing two weeks(physically). There are other non-narcotic things your doc can prescribe for pain but if you had a problem with opiate pain killers, staying on suboxone is not a good idea. When taken for extended periods and/or in high doses, it is very hard to get off of. If you came from a narcotic addiction, u should use the sub to get off the other opiates and then get yourself off the subs as soon as possible. I have been down that road before and high doses and long term use of sub is worse than withdrawling from oxy’s, except there is no “medicine” you can take to help you get off the sub’s. I have a proven method a friend of mine made for tapering and getting off of subs, if you are interested, let me know and i will help. Please trust me when i say this that you do not want to use suboxone as a long term pain medicine, you might as well get OXY 80’s and have some fun because you are still going to have to go through W/D. I am not a doctor, just giving input based on my experiences thus far in life. Wish you all the best!!

    • Profile photo of Anonymous UserAnonymous User
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      #25643

      I am currently taking 8mg suboxone/buprenorphine/naloxone. I read you article on getting off the suboxone. I have had fear about the withdrawl of coming off the suboxone. I would greatly appreciate it if you could tell me how you come off the suboxone without the withdrawls.

    • Profile photo of Anonymous UserAnonymous User
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      #25639

      I just stopped taking it….I cut from 3/N8’s to half a pill a day…then just stopped. It’s good to get some form of migraine medication as that was my major problem but with the Imitrex/Butal APAP I was back to normal in just a week or so.
      As for abuse…I have snorted, eaten, injected suboxone while I was still using heroin, never had any form of withdrawal, and got high as if I had done some bags. Since coming off of everything I’m at the point where i caved in one day and took one after only a week or so and spent the night throwing up. So…maybe it works opposite for me? Not a clue.

    • Profile photo of Anonymous UserAnonymous User
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      #25637

      Hello Everyone! I am very glad to see others can benefit from this drug as well. I have been on suboxone everyday consistently long term since April 1st 2009 and many times before but only for short term. The time has come for me to ween off the subs. But I dont want to since I also know first hand the withdrawals from suboxone are worse than any pill or opiate I have ever kicked. It seems really misleading to me when all the CDPs and physicians say the w/drawl is no where near as bad as oxy.To me that is a cold lie!! Unless they are talking about very short term small dose usage just to help get you through the detox. That way works well I think. As a matter of fact I have been really regretting being on suboxone maintainence because it really is hard challenge to stop taking them. I know personally the feeling of withdrawl from every way possible with suboxone; precipitated, short term use, long term use.. I have felt them all and personally short term is the only way I prefer. But being honest I am very happy with my life now and I really wouldn’t know where I would be right now if it wasn’t for suboxone maintenance program.. I have gotten my life back and I am very happy, blessed and thankful that a drug like suboxone is available. If any of you guys have any ideas or methods of tapering off suboxone after 2 years maintenance i could really use.. The good thing about suboxone is you can actually stabilize and get your life back and then slowly ween off if you stick to the plan. Its very hard as an addict to “ween” off oxys or hydros or any opiate for that matter. Anything for anyone would help?.. Thanks

    • Profile photo of BdiddytampaBdiddytampa
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      Well you must have been on some small doses of oxy my friend cuz there is no way you experienced full withdrawls of oxy/heroin and felt worse from suboxone, no freakin way. Suboxone withdrawls are unpleasant for sure, but my god, NOTHING compared to oxy or heroin. When withdrawling from them, I had profuse sweating, chills, skin crawling, cramps, diarrhea, vomiting, dry heaving, sleeplessness, headaches, etc. I was on suboxone for 3 years, tapered down to 2mg a day, then stopped. I had some chills and sleeplessness, and i didnt feel well for almost a week, but compared to oxy or heroin… no contest. Suboxone saved my life, if used correctly, it can save lives.

    • Profile photo of Anonymous UserAnonymous User
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      #25629

      I just started taking suboxone to get off of pain killers… was taking over 180m of roxis a day maybe more…. I take two sub 8mg a day after few days I plan to go down to 8mg n then lower… is this the right way to tapper off?? Please let me know for I do not want to withdraw from them esp if there is no med to help u withdraw off of subs

    • Profile photo of Mosaicmayhem1Mosaicmayhem1
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      i am interested in your friends method for cutting down and getting off the suboxone my doc is just s drug pusher i feel so i need to help myself i just had a shoulder replacement and i went off the sub and onto oxy and deluadem then i went down to percocet and 2 days later i started major withdrawels from i’m not sure what sub. or oxy but i took a sub and the symptoms went away my husband is not very understanding so i am on my own

  • Profile photo of Anonymous UserAnonymous User
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    #25667

    This upsets me as someone who is on month 2 of suboxone treatment and as a recovering addict. I have not ever taken more than prescribed nor taken it any other way than i am supposed to. I am upset to see this report as it helps support the stigma surrounding this life saving drug. I overdosed 3 times from fetanyl/ other drugs. I am happy to report I now attend church every week, and adult bible study. I also attend NA meetings AS REQUIRED! and I get COUNSELING! Please note that those abusing or selling it are a minute few and not the majority. I get drug tested at a lab and the results are faxed to my suboxone doctor AS HE DEMANDED. If anyone knows people doing this, please stop and don’t ruin a blessing! The govt. always bans things because of the minority of people who find a way to ruin and abuse every privilege!!!!!! – 20 yrs old

    • Profile photo of Anonymous UserAnonymous User
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      #25651

      i’m glad this drug is being legitimately used and is truly helping some of you but I can tell you from my experience it is being abused by more than a select few. I have the pleasure of being a pharmacist at a pharmacy right next door to the only doctor who prescribes Suboxone in about a 200 mile radius so I receive a lot of prescriptions for this product. I have seen a lot of abuse of this drug and have actually caught patients calling in fake prescriptions so they can get more and more of the medication so they are obviously misusing it.

    • Profile photo of Anonymous UserAnonymous User
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      I agree i used to get pain meds for my neck surgeries very easy 20 yrs ago. Now , its harder ro get from a DR. thank getting a concealed weapon permit. Its like that because of the people who abused it. I was one of them, so Im not putting anyone down, but i agree I hope it does not happen to suboxen. Methadone is the same way. i kne so many people at the clinic that used it as a back if they ran out of H or OC.

    • Profile photo of Anonymous UserAnonymous User
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      #25631

      Wow only 20 yrs old!! Suboxone should be banned!!! It’s a legalized drug with a $20 street value!! Anything like this is going to be abused by people like you!! You are a slave. Why don’t you wake up and realize it!!!!

    • Profile photo of Anonymous AnonymousAnonymous Anonymous
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      #25619

      If your gona band suboxone you might as well band every pill ever made and spay cans and relaxing soap and so on and so on because there are so many ways to get high now days…i take suboxone and it is a huge help…im sure your not a smoker drinker ect all those are addictive and just as bad for you so why dont YOU WAKE UP and get a life and stop jerkin off to this sight while you run your mouth:)

  • Profile photo of Anonymous UserAnonymous User
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    #25666

    I know first hand how addictive pain killers can be, my husband mangled his foot 5 years ago and was on Percocets since then , A good friend of ours told us about SUBOXONE and he got treatment and he is doing better than he ever has before, he feels great and not run down from the pain-killers , I think that SUBOXONE IS a WONDER DRUG , It doesn’t make him HIGH. I am so happy that this Medication helped him out and other people that i know that have been in treatment and it has worked wonders for them , they dont ever want to go back to the pain pills again.. I HOPE AND PRAY THAT THEY WILL WAY OUT THE PRO’S FROM THE CON’S FOR THIS MEDICATION .. I HAVE ONLY HEARD HOW MUCH GOOD IT HAS DONE …

  • Profile photo of Anonymous UserAnonymous User
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    #25665

    Suboxone is the best breakthrough in opioid dependency treatment that has ever been developed. I say this having myself struggled with a heroin addiction for five years and failing to stay clean on methadone, 12 step, etc.. Suboxone contains naloxone which means if the pill is injected or snorted the naloxone acts to instantly rip off anything attached to the opioid receptor causing instant withdraw! Second, suboxone produces the same effect after 32mg no matter how much is taken meaning it is impossible to get “high” whether dosed at 32 or 100 mg the effect on your brain is the exact same! This info can be verified through any medical resource unlike this article that cites no sources and obviously took no thought other than opinion over fact. Misleading information such as this is dangerous only empowering the ignorant belief that “cold turkey” detox is the only safe way to keep drugs out of the hands of abusers. If anyone is dumb enough to believe this chances are you’re the same people who would attempt to IV suboxone!!

    • Profile photo of Anonymous UserAnonymous User
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      We certainly had no intentions of disparaging Suboxone when reporting on some problems with its diversion and abuse.

      We think that Suboxone is a very effective medication that works very well and that is preferable in many ways to methadone. For many people, this drug is a literal lifesaver.

      We are aware of the medication’s mechanisms of action, its dosage ceiling and the naloxone added to the medication to reduce the abuse potential. That federal officials are meeting to discuss problems with abuse and diversion, however, suggests that in some cases, people are taking this medication inappropriately. (Here is a link to the original story http://www.jointogether.org/ne

      Although the dosage ceiling limits the intoxicating effects for someone with a high opiate tolerance – such as someone accustomed to daily heroin or methadone use – a person with a lesser tolerance would likely find even lesser doses of Suboxone very potent.

    • Profile photo of Anonymous UserAnonymous User
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      First, i got clean from heroin addiction in 1986. In that time i worked in recovery & also worked in an E.A.P. in the casino industry. I stayed clean/sober for almost 14 yrs. I relapsed via pain meds from surgery. Went back to treatment & stayed clean/sober for another 5 yrs. Relapsed again via a major back surgery.This run lasted 5yrs. During this time i’ve had the priviledge of being in 42 detoxes, 7 treatment centers, jail 4 times, & lets not forget the 2 or 3 phyc. units. I could get clean/sober but couldn’t stop starting. Any period of sobriety/clean-time just had my head screaming with “your a worthless piece of crap,etc.etc.” the only way to stop my head was to use again. I literally came to the point were i just succumbed to the fact that i was going to be a dope fiend for the rest of my life. I accepted this fact & became o.k. with it. Then the miricle happened to me. I was told by the streets that there was a study that was going to start. I suboxone study that consisted of being administered sub. & get paid for it. At first i struggled because in addition to beind addicted to heroin i was taken 10 to 15 xanax daily. Because i sold drugs (heroin, pills) to support my habit i also had great pill connections (pain clinics). I had nine doctors (pain clinics) monthly. Two per week & three the last week of the month. So believe me ladies & gentlemen a had a dealers habit and it was screaming, trust that. I was addicted to a way of life. So what happened to me was that i finally got got the courage to put down the drugs via my couch. Oh it was hell & i struggled adding sub. to the list of things i would already take. Slowly but surely i put everything else down but for the sub. I don’t recommend this because xanax withdrawal can and will kill you. I hullucinated & hung on. Then i started going to 12 step program & did the steps which they suggested i do. That in turn made it easier to deal with my head, the dissappointments etc. In a very short period of time I’m totally involved with the 12 step thing A.A./N.A. have a place to live, car, and am making $. Not much but enough to get my needs. I have god in my life. Plus i have this suboxone. I have thoughts but no overwhelming obsessions. This suboxone study has literally saved my life. What it did was buy me time to sort my head out. I was totally shot out! When i become a little more stabilized i’ll start the weening of process. I’m percribed 16mg per day but only take between 4/8mg daily & i’m o.k. with that for now. I realize that my goal is to be 100% drug free & i’ve tried that conventional way to many many failures. So for right now i’m not where i want to be by far but i’m not where i used to be by a long shot. This has truely saved my life.

    • Profile photo of Anonymous UserAnonymous User
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      Good for you. I hope you can be 100% sober one day and drug free.