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  • Profile photo of Shambhunath GiriShambhunath Giri
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    #15563

    Hi Anna, the contents are indeed highly informative. However, what are the chances that an addict, very determined to stay away from codeine syrup abuse, chooses the suboxone medication treatment to help mitigate the withdrawal symptoms, will relapse…??

  • Profile photo of jeffrey robinsonjeffrey robinson
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    I am in this exact situation at the moment. I am in a methadone program for opiate addiction and since beginning the program I have begun using cocaine everyday.
    Briefly; I am 43 and have been married for 25 years to a woman still love very much. We have 3 kids, 2 grown and 1 still at home. The 1st was born when I was just 17 and my wife just 15. I value my marriage and family above everything.-of course, my actions as an addict would say otherwise-
    My wife is not a drug user at all and my drug abuse has gotten to the point now that she is near the point of leaving me and ending our marriage.
    In spite of this, I seem to be unable to stop. I sometimes feel like the decision to use cocaine- on a day when I have once again promised will be the first day of a commitment to not use any illicit drugs and focus on the long term goal of one day weaning off of the methadone as well- already been made deep inside my psyche and now I am just doing it. I find myself on my way to the place, calling the people, and spending the money. All on a kind of auto pilot. The thoughts about the bill I was supposed to pay with that money, or the promise I made to my wife for the 10,000th time are there, but they are fleeting and weak. They never even slow me down.
    Is it even true? Do I really love my wife and kids? Is it possible that I just don’t love them or anyone else at all? How can I feel like I love so many people and care so much about them if I never am compelled to act on those feelings? Why does my love for other people never seem to be reflected in my actions?
    I have tried going to a couple NA meetings. I have been warmly received, of course, but I can’t help feeling like the fact that I am going to be at the methadone clinic the next morning makes my presence there hypocritical. That organisation is about sobriety- they speak of their “clean date”and such. So I never feel confident that NA is the right place for me to get the help I need.
    I work, I am the sole finacial provider in my house. So I can’t go to an in-patient rehab facility. Never mind the fact that I can’t afford it.
    I need therapy. Individual therapy mostly, I think. I’m sure some group therapy might be reccomended at some point, but anyway…
    so, yeah…
    any thoughts?
    J.R.

    • Profile photo of JosephJoseph
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      #15561

      JR,
      My first name is Joe, and I feel blessed just hearing and relating to your story. I would love to connect via email or phone even if we can find a way to do that discretely

      thanks,

      J

    • Profile photo of JosephJoseph
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      #15560

      (**Addition** sorry)
      I spent just over a year at the methadone clinic and it was the toughest most life changing experience of my life coming off of that. Personal experience with so much more than that, I just wanted you to know I’m not someone looking in from the outside.

      – J

    • Profile photo of Anthony KelsoeAnthony Kelsoe
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      #15555

      Ya but you wanted to quit. I mean really wanted to quit. Its the hardest part. You know you should you see all the reason and you even at least on the surface want to quit. However if you still like the high you’ll never quit. Also there’st hat security blanket feeling you get when your taking a substance. It’s like “as long as I have my suboxone everything will be ok” it’s hard to realize that everything will be ok with out the substance.

    • Profile photo of nakishanakisha
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      #15559

      Keep trying . Don’t give up on your family . You family needs you whether you know it or not

    • Profile photo of ezez
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      #15558

      I’ve heard that, the promise above, if you made it while in possession and find that you’re unable to throw away what you currently have, the promise was empty and made to absolve you of the guilt of your current state.

      Bills are going to come in, family is dependent, and you are on auto-pilot. You speak of confidence in programs set to assist addicts but clearly you should be willing to entertain the thought that maybe your own thinking is at the moment hindered to say the least and it’s time to listen to others regardless of what you believe and just do what they say for a month.

      In patient therapy is something to consider when you’ve got clarity back to some extent. Right now, in your statement above, you said you’re the sole financial provider along with the sole person who spends the money to pay the bills on your habit.

      It’s been 3 months since you wrote the above comment, I’m curious at if your citation has gotten any better or worse and what you did to relieve these cravings.

    • Profile photo of Anthony KelsoeAnthony Kelsoe
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      Man you have to just do it. Grit your teeth and quit. But first you have to want to quit. Believe me i know. I’ve quit opiates probably four or five times and now I’m on suboxone and currently doing cocaine actually right now I’m not addicted to cocaine as I only do it every so often maybe 2 or 3 times a month. it is the hardest thing to quit the opiates right now I’m just taking Suboxone small amount I could quit but I don’t and I’m not even in a program I just get them off the street but right now I just don’t really want to quit I have a good job I make good money its just hard. The wd sucks!!!

  • Profile photo of Roger ChapelleRoger Chapelle
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    Based on the four dangers of taking suboxone with cocaine many subjects testing positive for cocaine (and other substances) are discharged from suboxone treatment. I would like to ask for open mindedness in considering the possibility that the four dangers of taking cocaine with suboxone be re-examined both as to their informational reliability and the cost benefit of using them as dis-qualifier for suboxone treatment.

    It is well known that most heroin users use other substances and I think it may be a mistake to assume they are all cross addicted, or that use of cocaine will increase dramatically in the absence of heroin use. The information initially given by the applicant for treatment should be a guide in this case. If an applicant declares occasional or moderate use of cocaine (or alcohol and THC) why suppose or assume that cocaine use will necessarily increase when suboxone is substituted for heroin?

    Degradation by cocaine use of the reduction withdrawal symptoms is of course a serious matter but at what serum levels? Will occasional and light use cause a significant enough degradation to warrant discharging someone who is otherwise maintaining abstinence from heroin use? Medicine does not deny treatment for diabetes or coronary conditions because the patients compliance is imperfect.

  • Profile photo of dopepheendopepheen
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    #15554

    I believe that you can stop doing cocaine anytime you please, opiates are the hardest drugs to come off of that there possibly is !! cocaine is NOTHING compared to opiates

  • Profile photo of markmark
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    I know this is an older post but I’m on Sub maintenance and went to couple NA meetings. I told them I was on Subs and was told I was not truly sober..I told my Sub Dr. this and he said thats bullshit.
    He said just take from program what helps you and what doesn’t help leave it there.
    He’s also phyciatrist. He said you have an illness and it’s nobodys business but your own on who to tell and who not to.